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 No.1731[D]

This is, dedicated to.. normalfags. This is gonna be edgy, but this is my opinion.
You're alone. You always will be. Those friends you sit with in the bar or at a restaurant don't know how you truly feel. They're only there because your mind requires them to keep you sane. Your girlfriend means nothing. The love you two share is transient and it'll be gone soon. Love, hate, sadness, happiness.. all of these were made so that your mind could be saved from itself. Your mind is powerful, use it for good. But you won't. You'll still choose to not do anything, to not think nor feel. Because thinking and feeling will require you to hurt yourself. It's fine. Continue what you're doing, continue believing that what you feel is this force of good that'll totally save you from sadness. I'm telling you this out of benevolence. I want to help you. We want to help you. But sadly, you're stuck. You're stuck here because of yourself. You sunk yourself intentionally into quicksand and now you make us dig you out. You tell us to get jobs, have fun in life, among other things. However, your ideas of "fun" and "a successful life" are degraded and do nothing for others except hurt them. We humans are social creatures, made to help each other to an extent, though we are still competitive. But you want to be selfish and make superficial connections with others who see you as a pawn.

This is not a call to nihilism, as some may think of it. This is a call to realization. Just because you're alone doesn't mean there are no outside entities that will not understand you. It just means you won't understand them. So then you read philosophy books and misunderstand them completely as telling you that you can do whatever you want, because you think that you have these philosophers to back up your hedonistic lifestyle. Remember what you did to Nietzsche and Schopenhauer? You people use philosophy not as a guide, but as a cope to continue your disgusting lifestyle.

TL;DR, get the fuck over yourselves.

 No.1733[D][DF]

>>1731
> So then you read philosophy books and misunderstand them completely as telling you that you can do whatever you want, because you think that you have these philosophers to back up your hedonistic lifestyle. Remember what you did to Nietzsche and Schopenhauer? You people use philosophy not as a guide, but as a cope to continue your disgusting lifestyle.
this so goddamn much. If plebs actually understood Nietzsche we'd all be a lot better off. To be fair, I think a some blame sits on universities. They summarize Nietzsche as "master-slave morality will to power nothing matters theend." Talk about bastardization.

 No.1734[D][DF]

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Also, let's all love lain w00t

 No.1736[D][DF]

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>>1731
>This is gonna be edgy, but this is my opinion.
Actually, it's not even edgy at all. sad how "edgy" opinions are frowned apon nowadays, and how stuff like this is somehow viewed as edgy.
>The love you two share is transient and it'll be gone soon. Love, hate, sadness, happiness.. all of these were made so that your mind could be saved from itself.
The modern day expression of love, damn.
>Because thinking and feeling will require you to hurt yourself. It's fine.
Kinda like arostotle said >tolerance and apathy are the last vertues of a dying society
>Continue what you're doing, continue believing that what you feel is this force of good that'll totally save you from sadness.
The after affects of ((social justice))
>But you want to be selfish and make superficial connections with others who see you as a pawn.
I remember reading a post from 4chan that said : >"oh, hi anon i'm just like you! even though i have a bf/gf and a successful job and friends and a car i'm autistic werdo loner lol"
>This is not a call to nihilism, as some may think of it. This is a call to realization.
If i remember correctly, nihilism is the persuit of meaning in the collapse of things that was once good like religion, and we can persue happiyness dispite the fact that everything is bad by persuing self ownership, passions like art, and struggle to be the best version of ourselves and help to do our part to improve humanity.
>Just because you're alone doesn't mean there are no outside entities that will not understand you.
pic related
>It just means you won't understand them. So then you read philosophy books and misunderstand them completely as telling you that you can do whatever you want, because you think that you have these philosophers to back up your hedonistic lifestyle.
Absolute win, i feel like media is to blame for this, also, shitty philosphy videos on jewtube.
>You (((people))) use philosophy not as a guide, but as a cope to continue your disgusting lifestyle.
I always felt alone or scared because of the questions i have, and philosphy always answers them, or pushes me to question further.

 No.1737[D][DF]

>>1736
>"oh, hi anon i'm just like you! even though i have a bf/gf and a successful job and friends and a car i'm autistic werdo loner lol"
This is probably one of the things that I despise most in normalfags. Social butterflies calling themselves "introverts", they have no idea how it is not to speak to anyone for any time period that's longer than their attention span. They constantly seek approval, and since the advent of internet they've been reaching into other instant-gratification social media outlets just to feel good about themselves.

 No.2144[D][DF]

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>>1731
ya know these days I don't feel much, not that I ever really did I have always been really jaded and the shit that gets thrown in my face every day by how broken and fucked up everything has become normally barely makes me feel disappointed anymore.
but sometimes when I take a step back and really think about it, about how far we've fallen from the standards beliefs and glories of the past, how basically everyone from the lowest pig farmer to the noblest of gentleman explorer was truly alive and real and now they are all cookie-cutter drones who think themselves perfect and unique, about how civilization has been twisted to such an extreme that the very basics of humanity the very biological facts and instincts have been burned and tarnished.
it makes me despair, not the kind of despair that the normie attention whores feel, (bawwwww I'm so depressed I can't buy the new iPhone I just wish id die!) no it's the kind of despair that id imagine one would feel if a good man who had been kind to them multiple times in the past about one day decided to disembowel himself for no reason save he felt hunger pangs.

 No.2445[D][DF]

>>1737
I've been seeing that more, it just seems like they really like fetishizing the whole "outsider" persona just to fit in these places even though they stick out like a sore thumb.

 No.2446[D][DF]

Not exactly sure what good it does but it needs to be, well. Not tolerated because those people generally misunderstand what these places are for, it's like inviting niggers to make a place more dirverse, you lose what little culture you have, and happiness being with people just like you, and knowing your not alone. the people who actually care won't want to join a place filled with these people, and i can imagine just leaving to avoid talking with them. They also have a habit of doing stupid bullshit like what you would see on an ED page or use sites for E-dating which is a generally retarded idea in itself.
>tolerance and apathy are the last vertues of a dying society
Pretty much this, it's all going downhill from here, on the internet or otherwise.

 No.2447[D][DF]

>>1731
Off-topic question, Are there any works of Nietzsche and Schopenhauer worth the read?

 No.2448[D][DF]

>>2144
Do you think one can revive the fire and steer humanity on the right path our would it just be "pissing in the ocean of piss"

 No.2449[D][DF]

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>>1734
w00t

 No.2452[D][DF]

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>>2448
The point was never to save all of humanity, but to save ourselves individually.

 No.2463[D][DF]

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>>1731
This isn't even edgy its just fact at this point, I completely agree with your opinion.
I just hate that normalfags try to say that they're better than you because they have a girlfriend or they have friends, sometimes they brag about making more money than you. In their eyes that is their version of living a "successful life" and anything that is outside of their little box is considered "bad", "strange", or "weird". I sincerely don't see the point of participating in the dick-measuring contest known as "life" and I certainly don't see the point of participating in modern day "society". If you even mention about not wanting to play this game you evidently get bashed on by normalfags that you're a selfish, deluded, insane person and that you should be on medication and be seeing someone at all times.

At the end of the day, normalfags don't care that they're living a lie, they rather stay willingly ignorant and not really think about anything too much. They would rather just have "fun" by having degenerate sex and consuming drugs until their body shuts down.
They're not better than us or anybody just because they decided to follow the rules and participate in this game like a little doggy, but they have no right to bitch or whine about it when it doesn't go their way.

>Just because you're alone doesn't mean there are no outside entities that will not understand you. It just means you won't understand them. So then you read philosophy books and misunderstand them completely as telling you that you can do whatever you want, because you think that you have these philosophers to back up your hedonistic lifestyle. Remember what you did to Nietzsche and Schopenhauer? You people use philosophy not as a guide, but as a cope to continue your disgusting lifestyle.


Blame higher education such as universities and college. They allow the normalfags to act the way they are while simultaneously bragging how much "better" they are by going to university/college to "educate" themselves rather than try to be happy by self-improvement and self-realization.

 No.2465[D][DF]

>>2463
>say that they're better than you because they have a girlfriend or they have friends
Most definitely, normalfags try to one-up you to the point it is insane. Even people in our crowd does it. If you make 1000 euros or dollars off anything, someone will brag about making one more than you. It doesn't motivate anyone, rather it demotivates people.
>rules and participate in this game like a little doggy
Normalfags are deluded in a group so they believe they are right. A couple of years ago I may have been confused about this, however, I see how empty these normalfags lives are. Despite not having the best situation, they push their lifestyle on you which, angers me a lot.

 No.2482[D][DF]

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>>1731
normalfags don't suffer from the biological effects of loneliness like we do, just read this

 No.2484[D][DF]

>>1731
normies have no soul, they are just NPCs, nothing more than pawns.
The idea that being a normal person is good or even desierable is idiotic.

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>>1736
found the post, i figured i'd post the full thing for context or whatever

 No.2522[D][DF]

The thing about normalfaggotry is that sometimes I feel like I'm relapsing. I don't know how much of myself I sacrifice every day just to not be put in an institution on the daily. I've met and associated with a rare bunch that tolerate and even enjoy my peculiarities, but deep down I know they haven't matured to the same level that I have. So what do I do? Do I educate them down a path that I know they're interested in but don't know that I can guide them down, or leave them behind and lose a bit of myself along with it? I don't know how this relates to the first sentence, but it feels right for some reason.

 No.2523[D][DF]

>>2522
In truth, it's not them understanding me that fulfills me, but my ability to understand them and guide them in their daily lives, often to great help. I know that sounds like I'm trying to be their dad or something, but it's true.

 No.2534[D][DF]

>>1736
damn
thank you all

 No.2549[D][DF]

I'd like to provide an antithesis, as per rule 32 of the internet (22chan edition)
I share many of your guy's sentiments regarding how ugly it is when people take life as a "race" and try to show off as much as possible
I agree that many people live shallow lives, have shallow values and treat others in a shitty way
However...
I don't think that having a girlfriend, or hanging out with friends makes you this way. I know this is never stated directly, but if you say "normalfags value social status and money" and then say "if you have a girlfriend you're a normalfag" that is implied
The same way, I don't think being socially isolated guarantees that you're not a boring/shallow person, similarly to a normalfag
Btw, I really recommend you guys read a manga: onani master kurosawa. It's about a guy who despises everyone around him (you could say "normalfags"). It's really great. Don't get discouraged if it seems a bit boring/weird to you at first, in a way it makes sense afterwards

 No.2551[D][DF]

>>2549
You've gotten confused. Relationships = normalfaggotry has always been a thing.
Sure, the second someone gets into a relationship it doesn't mean they'll turn shallow, but also it doesn't mean that they aren't any less of a normalfag and therefore don't belong here or shouldn't engage or talk about that content out of respect for the board and it's people. Especially because of the "no normalfags" rule it means people here tend to be your atypical internet dwellers who care more for comfy conversations and discussion of stuff they are autistic about then desperately craving sex and relationships (notice how 4chan gets shat up with these type of threads) where sometimes in life it shouldn't be forced to get, nor is it really needed to live at your full potential.
Being in a relationship is literally a symptom of normalfaggotry. The oldfag definition from ED says
> Normalfags go to work, have a circle of friends in the real world, go to events outside their homes, have adequate conversational skills and have very little to no mental disabilities that would otherwise drive them to go on the internet. Despite appearing to have an otherwise mundane life not filled with memes and internet in-jokes, normalfags are pros at getting laid, compared to the typical netizen.
Yes, this is old. like now some of those "memes" are normalfaggy and it doesnt mean people who arent NEET, wizards, or shutins to post on this board, but the higher your social status gets, the more isolated you become from the people who post here, and much like how a relationship changes both partners to where they think diffrently, your interaction with the people who use the board might change and ruin the culture we have or rub people the wrong way.
At the end of the day, Its a taboo to our board that doesnt belong. People who are in relationships who use 22chan should simply not discuss anything related to that content, and people who want to be in relationships shouldnt try to date people here. Why? out of respect for our board and it's people. There's plenty of other boards that people can go to discuss or engage in this stuff.

 No.2564[D][DF]

>>2551
I don't understand why this:
>Normalfags go to work, have a circle of friends in the real world, go to events outside their homes, have adequate conversational skills and have very little to no mental disabilities that would otherwise drive them to go on the internet
Makes someone a shitty person in the ways we described in this thread
Why can't someone be outgoing but also be a decent person?
Why can't someone have a girlfriend but also be an interesting person and have "autistic" interests?

 No.2567[D][DF]

>>2564
Let me restate what i said. Yes, i agree with what you said. >>1731 failed to account for the "not all people" aspect where not all normalfags are shitty people as discribed in this thread. You can be outgoing, have autistic interests, and be in a relationship, but no matter what you'd still be a normalfag. It wouldn't take away or nullify you being a decent human being, or nice though.

 No.2568[D][DF]

Here is the way i personally see things. I hate faggots/faggot related content. I also hate normalfags in the same way i hate faggots, I'll discuss it, and why i dislike it and even report that shit if i see it since that stuff doesnt belong here. but there's always a line to draw. There's no real reason to engage in a circlejerk, or rant and rave like a madman about it since that stuff is taboo/banned anyhow. I get it. Its cringworthy to see someone go too far, and why stoop down to the level of the people we dislike?
Perhaps i cleared things up?

 No.2569[D][DF]

>>2452
How would that be done, mutual understanding with a pintch of self reflection?

 No.2572[D][DF]

>>2567
>>2568
I see. I just felt this was somewhat important, so I didn't want for it to go unsaid

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>>2463
Yes, anon, you're so much better than the participants you're leeching off.

 No.2590[D][DF]

>>2580
rude

 No.3115[D][DF]

>>1731
Rule 3

 No.3119[D][DF]

>>3115
What does this have to do with anything?



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