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 No.1301[D]

In light of information indicating numerous little and big red flags about the NSDAP, such as how many of its members looked jewish (Naujocks, Heydrich, Eichmann, Goebbels (though he's written off as merely having a Med/Dinaric phenotype), etc.), Hebrew symbolism in the Waffen-SS, NS antagonism towards non-German Europeans, the NS usage of the hammer and sickle, portraying admitted jews and mischlings as poster Aryans, jewish girlfriends/mentors in notable NSDAP members' early lives, Eichmann 'fleeing' to heavily jewish Buenos Aires, etc., could the term "Nazi" also be a red flag?

The theory that the term is allegedly from Ashkenazi (though Ashkenazi is Aschkenasi in German) is a longstanding one, though it was on controlled opposition sites that also made up a lot of gobbledygook alongside it. I remember coming across the idea and dismissing it many years ago just because of all the other crud the websites were peddling (I guess I wasn't as discerning back then) and thinking that it was too obvious of a reference. Well, considering all of the other in-your-face symbolism they push, I have actually taken the AshkeNazi theory into better consideration. It could be derived from the spelling of Ashkenazi in English and other languages, but given a German pronunciation (z = ts in German). Ashkenazim are said to have originated in the Rhineland.

Nazi/Natzi was also a nickname for Ignaz/Ignatz, and either the nickname or proper name or both was/were considered to be the early 20th Bavarian equivalent to Cletus or Billybob in the modern US, i.e. an unsophisticated hick. The NSDAP originated in Munich (officially at least; it may very well have had multiple international hands in its making, which could also tie in to 'Ashkenazi').

So, 'Nazi' could have had a double entendre: AshkeNazi for the elite of the NSDAP, and IgNazi for the lower level proles. The sound of the word also fits in the German pronunciation of National (like nahtsionahl); while the NSDAP was said to have rejected the term Nazi, Goebbels did use it in his Nazi-Sozi speech.

1. Ashkenazi
2. Ignatz
3. German pronunciation of Nationalsozialist

 No.1302[D][DF]

The official explanation of the word in German itself is that it was just some slang for "national socialist", like "commie" is for "communist" or "kommunisten" (it's a slur originating in German, the "-ie" suffix is typical of German slang), and "sozi" is for "sozialdemokraten". Thing is, although "Nazi" may be pronounced like "Natsi" in German, it's not spelled like that at all, whereas "sozi" actually does derive form "sozialdemokraten". "Nazi" is actually the Italian shortening of the name, where it's literally "nazionale". Since Italian is phonetic, it would've been pronounced phonetically with the "z" unlike the typical Germanic "natsi", which is actually similar to how it's pronounced in modern Hebrew (or in awful Israeli-accents trying to speak English). See this video of Israeli peasants harassing some goyim by referring to them as "nazis".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvnrBU4vaGY
Thus I've contemplated that a potential alternative (or side-meaning) for "Ashkenazi" could be the Hebrew word "Nasi", essentially a word for a jewish prince of the sanhedrin, and is still used today as the word for "president" (thus Trump is a "nasi", as are the presidents of Israel).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasi_(Hebrew_title)
>Nasi (נָשִׂיא) is a Hebrew title meaning "prince" in Biblical Hebrew, "Prince [of the Sanhedrin]" in Mishnaic Hebrew, or "president" in Modern Hebrew.
By the way, note the admission of jewish hegemony in Septimania:
>The nasi were also prevalent during the 8th-century Frankish kingdom. They were a highly privileged group in Carolingian France. The Jews have collaborated with King Pepin to end Muslim rule over their city in 759. The Jews accepted surrender and Pepin was able to hold off the Saracens in Spain. Pepin rewarded the Jews with land and privileges such as the right to judicial and religious autonomy under rule of their own leadership. The heirs of the King and nasi held a close relationship until the tenth century
It's also pronounced phonetically, similar to how Israeli peasants (who typically have an awful grasp of English) pronounce "Nazi" phonetically, here's an example (this video is about the aforementioned jewish kingdom of Septimania):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDEyglrILAo
Note the pronunciation of "Nasi", now compare the pronunciation of it to the "nazi" used by those fanatical Israeli peasants. It's probably an Italianised version of the Hebrew "nasi" (which could make sense, seeing as the NSDAP was largely influenced by Italian fascists) that was then translated into German and English.

 No.1357[D][DF]

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>>1301
>the NS usage of the hammer and sickle
This is a pretty interesting aspect of NatSoc symbolism. Pic related is a commemorative badge made for the 1st of may 1934 (labor day).
The nazis kinda liked associating themselves with the "socialism" side, however their understanding of socialism was something other than what people generally think. Many times people attempt to push for a false narrative of NatSoc being a leftist ideology, just because of the "socialism" in their name. Using the same logic "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" is a nice and democratic state, just like the now non-existent "German Democratic Republic."
Returning on the "socialism" part, Joseph Goebbels explained it in one of his relatively early propaganda pamphlets, that being "Die verfluchten Hakenkreuzler," which sorta translates to "Those damn swastika-dudes," since the last word puts emphasis on the symbol, sounds kinda kooky but that's what it is. Anyhow, in this pamphlet Goebbels describes what they mean with Nationalism and what they mean with Socialism, and that was:
>"We are nationalists because we see the nation as the only way to bring all the forces of the nation together to preserve and improve our existence and the conditions under which we live."
>We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.
In different publications they denounce marxist-socialism, saying that "the reds" have twisted the original meaning of socialism.

 No.1358[D][DF]

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>>1357
Regarding the previous pic related, then at first I had my doubts on whether it was real or a forgery, any nazi-memoribilia collector knows how much fakes are out there. But I came across this, a stamp/drawing on a original "festpostkarte" (Holiday postcard) from 1934, which erased my doubts.

 No.1359[D][DF]

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>>1357
That's the badge he was talking about. To be fair, the hammer and sickle were used before the Soviets ever adopted it, but at the time the hammer and sickle was a symbol of Bolshevism, and the NSDAP were the ones going in street fights with the communists (or at least the SA) which also used the hammer and sickle at the time. Using it effectively meant associating with the communists at the time, and even if we ignore that, there were several other weird things going on with the Reich. Apparently there was a 30s-era German movie that was copied verbatim from a Soviet-one at the same time, I don't know the name of it, however. Another example of Hitler paying service to his ideological enemy was having a population exchange after the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, Stalin sending the Germans of the USSR back to Germany and parts of Poland and Ruthenians in Poland to the USSR. However, Hitler supposedly wanted to protect German settlement in the east, so was he going to send them back? It was a really odd choice.
In-fact, just like Hitler's status with the church (which differed at points, sometimes "opposing it" with "Positive Christianity" and sometimes praising them to the point of saying that he was just enacting what the church did for 1500 years, which is an extremely questionable quote as the church kept the jews as a privileged class), Hitler had this here-and-there status with Marxist socialism and capitalism. Hitler had many pro-capitalist policies, notably, US businesses like Coca-Cola were able to operate in Germany (despite Hitler opposing Roosevelt on-paper).

 No.1360[D][DF]

>>1357
Here are some crypto-Hebrew symbols in the Waffen-SS, one is the "legionary arm shield" of the Latvian SS:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Latvian)
This is a literal rotation of the Hebrew letter "He", and in modern Hebrew fonts, the resemblance is even similar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_(letter)
It's also interesting to note that Brenton Tarrant's gun had the legionary arm-shield written on it, which makes that "event" ever more suspicious.
This is the other notable one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/37th_SS_Volunteer_Cavalry_Division_L%C3%BCtzow
The 37th SS "Lützow" used a reversed version of the Hebrew letter "bet":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bet_(letter)
Another thing about the SS is that one of the last legions defending the Reichstag was a French SS division nicknamed "Charlemagne". Charlemagne himself was known for establishing life-long pro-jewish policies, they were the only group allowed to charge interest in his empire, and he was also known for massacring the Saxons (i.e., the core of northern German populations today, along with the Thuringians). Many national socialists and older German nationalists actually viewed Charlemagne with contempt for this reason, and venerated Widukind instead, however the NSDAP apparently idolised him. They even viewed themselves as a continuation of Charlemagne's empire by calling themselves the "Third Reich" (first Reich was the HRE) despite abhorring the Habsburgs, who were the actual heirs of Charlemagne, and viewing the eastward expansion of Germany as a duty, even using the Teutonic knights to antagonise non-German Europeans in their propaganda (despite supposedly banning their continuation due to their Habsburg-sympathy).

 No.1361[D][DF]

>>1359
It was a weird mix of paganism and christianity in nazism, and as you may know, Jesus is regarded as the king of jews in the new testament. It's actually kind of funny how Jesus was declared an aryan by those krauts.
Also I have heard of that specific movie but I also don't know it's name. Whatever it is, there's a couple of possible questions for it: who made it? Was it an independent film studio, were there any like that in Nazi Germany or was it all state-financed?
>which is an extremely questionable quote as the church kept the jews as a privileged class
Quite true, while there were anti-jewish pogroms every now and then like when Count Emicho did it in 1096, at those very same events a christian archbishop went out to protect the jews. Im also interested where that quote comes from.
>>1360
>15th SS
The latvians were very anti-jewish after soviet atrocities in 1940/41, so I will have to go again with that "correlation=/=causation." The resemblance is interesting, but it's a bit far fetched.

 No.1362[D][DF]

>>1361
Just to give some context, at the time a large amount of people in Germany that hated the church were themselves just called "Gottglaubig", some of them were men who left the church but still believed in a higher power or even Jesus, and then some were like Himmler who (at least on-paper) had some sort of Germanic religion:
>People who identified as gottgläubig could hold a wide range of religious beliefs, including non-clerical Christianity,[4] Germanic neopaganism,[4] a generic non-Christian theism,[9] deism,[2] and pantheism.[2] Strictly speaking, Gottgläubigen were not even required to terminate their church membership, but strongly encouraged to.[10]
Thus "Positive Christianity" was just a vague term used by Hitler and loosely defined by Alfred Rosenberg to oppose Catholicism, but then again, Hitler always flipped between supporting that and then supporting the church.
>where that quote comes from
It was during a meeting with the bishop of Osnabrück in April of 1933, just after he took power, though I can't find the exact original source that talks about it. There's a book that references it called "The Nazi Persecution of the Churches" (going by its contradictory details, that may not be the case) though most of the book is available on jewgle as part of a "preview", the source it references is apparently under some paywall and I'm not dealing with jewgle.
>The latvians were very anti-jewish after soviet atrocities in 1940/41, so I will have to go again with that "correlation=/=causation." The resemblance is interesting, but it's a bit far fetched.
I'm aware of how the Latvians chose to ally with the Germans against the Soviets and still remember that today; however, did the Latvian people really choose their emblem? Why else would it be identical to a rotated Hebrew letter?
Some influential people in the SS such as Naujocks (who got off scot-free after the war ended) are said to be of Lithuanian descent, but look jewish and are thus probably "Lithuanian" jews, could that also be the case for Latvia?

 No.1363[D][DF]

>>1362
I don't know who picked the emblems for each of the Waffen-SS divisions and I haven't really ever seen it referenced.
>probably "Lithuanian" jews, could that also be the case for Latvia?
Hard to say, the statistics are our only guide on this, in Latvia there were a lot less jews than in Lithuania and Estonia had almost none, so it's less possible. As for the symbol/emblem, i think it's just a "L" with a "1" to symbolise that it is the 1st Latvian, and same goes for the 19th SS division, just with L and roman numeral "2".
>Gottglaubig
As far as I know, latvians did have a very similar thing called "Dievturība," which essentially is a form of neo-paganism.


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