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Have you ever felt regret that you were born in this time period?
Did you want to be born in different era?
If you had to choose time to live in, which would it be?


I usually prefer to not long for the past, and instead work towards a better future, but I have just completely given up on that lately.
I wish I was born a boomer. The 1960s and 70s I find to be especially comfy.


Even though I know better, I can't help but feel this way often. In the modern first-world, we have access to so many comforts, but we are also bubbled and denied any opportunity to truly thrive. If I wanted to maintain that basic sort of lifestyle, I'd say optimal time period is early Roman Empire, born into a patrician family, mainly because the weather would be nice and the sexual taboos would be lenient.
If I had to live more like a peasant, I'd choose a farming family in the dark ages in central or eastern Europe. Pre-Charlemagne, obviously.


Partly. Though I do adore electronics and artifacts from days gone by, I am somewhat happy to live with our technology. In fact, our technology assists us in understanding the past.

Example: The Internet is a great resource for Assembly language on old computers in specific. You don't have to go to a library anymore and gamble to see if they have something or not.


Nah man, look at this time. We got technology. We got comfort. We got choice. Of course it could be better, but where would you go, a time where catching a flue means you're dead at 16?
I feel like the main problem with this time is that you really gotta know how to block out things to fully enjoy it, but in the end you get so much enjoyment that nothing from the past can really compare.



> but where would you go, a time where catching a flue means you're dead at 16?

That's too radical, 20-40 years back should be enough. Basically everything post-WWII and before 2010's is more or less ok

Even if we have modern technology that allows us to do things that were impossible yesterday, I feel I could be happier without it.

Without endless stream of information uploading into brain every day, "smart" tech and everything being digitized. I think I would be happy living at slower pace. Or maybe i'm just a tired boomer.


So I should have just killed myself back in 2010 like I was contemplating.


books are always comfy, easier to read physical books then digital desu.


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I do, I want to be my current age, perhaps a bit younger, in the 90s. I want to see the early internet, older animu and western cartoons of the era, the art and music scenes going on at the time, concerts, etc.
I think its a feeling thats not entirely unique to the past two generations, but one that is becoming more popular as time goes on. The past (1960s-1990s) have a energy so foreign and free to the time now. They were recorded enough to have a good grasp on what life was like but not so much that the information is suffocating like the endless stream of today seems to be. It seems simpler because we only see the important or enjoyable events, not the everyday mundaneness or casual sadness that was likely felt. We see woodstock, rock concerts, house parties, comfy simpleness that seems to be missing from today. Events where everyone was simply living one life, not two - nearly everyone in the developed world occupies themselves in two realities, the physical and the virtual. I think everyone seemed more present in the past for this reason.
Perhaps the epidemic of longing for the past and nostalgia for things one never experienced is not entitlement or taking our current time for granteed, but instead a yearning for a simpler time where everyone was more connected and the world was bigger. Something about those time periods makes me feel that almost childhood innocence of only knowing your local neighborhood and little else. The world is so globalized and digitized that you can know anything anytime. There's no air of mystery of comfort of not knowing every detail of tragedy overseas.
I think its a bit odd some make fun of those who want to be in bygone eras. There is an overwhelming sadness in the air to me, and I'm not sure if its a personal feeling but it seems pervasive across everyone I know. The flow of information is suffocating, everyone connects digitally, there is less and less humanity as we become descensitized by the constant barrage of sex, violence, and gore from everyone corner of the globe. The fact that you can find deposits of incredibly taboo subjects so easily, and that they are almost becoming normalized (ex. incest in porn) is worrying. I sound like a parent, but I think they had a point in saying technology would be harmful 2-some decades ago.
This isn't to say that degeneracy did not exist years ago, but this generation has the unique experience of hostiing these subcommunities and making them well known enough so that it is no longer shocking. This is a good or bad thing depending on who you are.
I also, perhaps solely personally, notice that there is less creativity. This may be because theres a well-known format for creating popular media that is shared globally in music, movies, entertainment, communication, etc. It is common to see reboots of movies done over and over, music that sounds the same and has the same content, social medias that are all really the same at their core. The 60s has a violent revival of original art and culture that has slowly been dying since then. It is sorely missed. People are forgetting that you don't have tr make a profit so long as you are making something, something ugly, beautiful, funny, disgusting, something original. This is what I enjoy about the early internet - it had that air of human freedom of expression. Low quality memes but all original. Low quality sites but all original. There seems to be a strange expectation of high quality everything nowdays. It all must be polished, perfectly done lest you fall to critics who aren't even in your community. I hope to see this revivial of originality in smaller sites like this. I think it could do everyone a favor.
Anyway, I had no point. This was just ramblings and observations. I almost exhausted the character limit because I'm so passionate about this topic. I think, if I have a point, is that I don't blame people for missing the past - it has what we miss about humanity.


An issue with nostalga is how people ignore or forget the problems of those times and only remember the good. Not saying it's wrong to like or want to even experience old stuff, its just good to undstand that everything wasn't perfect and how those issues happened in the first place.


true, but audiobooks rock


Oh i forgot about audiobooks, those are nice. especially during a nice walk or cleaning


>I think its a bit odd some make fun of those who want to be in bygone eras
I think you've said it yourself: we have tainted glasses about the past, and many "born in the wrong generation" people seem to be unaware of that
Also they often have this attitude:
>I also, perhaps solely personally, notice that there is less creativity
Which is, in my opinion, (unintentionally) cruel to all the incredible and creative artists we have today (More on that later)
You only hear of the good parts of the pasts. For example, nobody remembers the uninspired, uncreative and lame songs of the 50s. You will only hear of songs people remember, which means the good parts. shidty current music will be forgotten as well, and people will long to be born in the early 2000s. Just give it time
However if there really was less creative music being popular, it could actually be because of this "past-loving" generation: why listen and support your local band, when you can easily reach all the classics by the best bands in history within seconds? How can a new, inexperienced band hope to ever compete for your attention and listen-time against the beatles, queen, nirvana, rachmaninov, miles davis, metallica... Live concerts suffer as well: tours by 20+ year old historical groups playing 20+ year-old songs is everything this generation (of people genuinely into music) wants. It follows that the need for new interesting music is near to extinct, and we're left with the boring pop stuff
But I believe that something magical is also happening. The internet is the ultimate democratic distribution platform. It seems impossible to imagine people like Jack Stauber or Bill Wurtz being able to find a following and enough monetary support to live off their art in the past. Today a half-decent and relatively capable home studio is the cheapest ever, distributing your work is basically free and you can get a paycheck directly from your fans with things like patreon (which is unimaginable by old standards)
The result is that today it's easy to find lots and lots of great underground musicians. Check these out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KIJodoTO5Y and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUNnJOSXltw
Math rock in general is great nowadays
All of this is implicitly discarded as "uncreative" and not worthwhile (to some extent) when people say the past was better musically to the point of regretting being born into this time period. If you're really really into the 60s, I can understand why you'd want to be born then. But I will not be enthusiastic about it if the reason is that you have this "defeatist" attitude. When you long for the past and refuse the present, it sounds like you've given up, like you don't care. If you're instead just subjectively really into the vibe of the period then it's fine with me.
IMO art is immortal; as long as there will be humans, there will be people who are really into art, and they will persevere in making great stuff no matter what
Sorry for making this music-centric, but music's a pretty big thing, plus it's a big interest of mine. Different time periods are more or less optimistic and are better or worse off in economical matters, and that can be another valid reason to long for the past.
The internet is a whole another thing. There can't be any technology that only does good, in fact, the more powerful a technology is, the more there will be both positive and negative effects. Personally, the internet gave me everything: my music, my interests, communication with people I really care about. Then it also distracted me, destroyed my attention span and worse of all taken infinite hours of mine. But ultimately I'm very grateful


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>You only hear of the good parts of the pasts. For example, nobody remembers the uninspired, uncreative and lame songs of the 50s. You will only hear of songs people remember, which means the good parts. shidty current music will be forgotten as well, and people will long to be born in the early 2000s. Just give it time
I must say you are wrong.
The songs. that we associate with past eras is available to us because somebody spent the money to record and preserve them. This is the mainstream pop of each era, it doesn't directly represent quality. The music that will be associated with our time is the shallow, auto-tuned, corporate pop music. The better music will become obscure and mostly lost.
All recorded music available to us, back to the Gregorian chants, is still here because of money. No matter what era you are looking at, you are mostly seeing the most mainstream of art. Considering that, there is a degradation of quality you can measure. When even the most mundane and popular music had become noticeably shidtier by the decade since about the 1690's.


>The songs. that we associate with past eras is available to us because somebody spent the money to record and preserve them.
You have a point, yet I think the push money can give with things like quality recording and mixing, marketing and stuff is very powerful in the short-term but grows much weaker long-term. Sure, the biggest acts are remembered, but a very big chunk of popular stuff of the past isn't:
How many artists do you recognize? I know the beach boys, stevie wonder, johnny cash. That's 3/100. I might be very ignorant, but still, all these artists were crazy famous during their time. Now most are forgotten completely
Sometimes people unknown in their times become famous decades after their death, like nick drake. Because ultimately the thing that matters most in longevity is who listens to your stuff, and why


You're telling me you only recognize three of the artists on that list? You're never heard of Peter, Paul and Mary? Bobby Darin? ELVIS PRESLEY?
It's all pop music. It's a big list of pop artists who sold their souls to Jews and who recorded in big budget studios. In more recent decades, you can be aware of some of the more obscure artists because the people who were into them aren't all dead yet. And I'll give you that recording and preserving is easier and cheaper than ever, but the iconic music of this past decade will still end up being the trash you heard on "Top 40 Hits" radio.


Ok you're right about that one. Missed him, sorry
The other ones you mention, never heard. That's still about 4/100. Even if I missed another 2 or 3 the point still stands
>the iconic music of this past decade will still end up being the trash you heard on "Top 40 Hits" radio
...I guess so


You must not be very familiar with 60's music. That list you linked is a list of big-name artists. Though a few of them were more popular in the 50's.
If you google the names of those songs, I guarantee you'll recognize them, even if you haven't heard of the artists.




those are some lovely trips right there fine sir


oh baby check those troots



ah the beautiful sound of infant mortality


ah the sound of the blessed check'd twoots

twoots and troots in the same thread, especially blessed


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Sometimes i ask myself if the air was breathable for us back to the paleolithic


Nah, because I know that people in the past felt the exact same way, and a lot of the time when people did try to bring back the glory days, a lot people's lives either got shidtier or cut short. Though if I have to choose, I'll choose 80s because bbs culture :)


I sort of do. It feels like there's a lot of chaos in our time. A lot of stress. I think people aren't valued as much as they were before. I think the same can be said about everyday stuff. You can get pretty much everything with a click of a button. Sitting on your ass all day while people deliver food and necessities to your house is a reality. Everything's done online. It feels like there's less requirement for other people in modern lives.


i would want to live in the 1700s doing farm work in a beautiful fjord herding sheep with my sheppard.


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Sometimes it feels like there's no magic left in the world anymore.

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